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Summary of Hearings on Clean Water (7-24-03)
- June 19, 2003: House Transportation
and Infrastructure Subcommittee on Water Resources and Environment
Hearing on the Need to Update Water Quality Standards to Improve
Clean Water Act Programs.
- July 16, 2003: Senate Governmental Affairs
Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management, the Federal
Workforce and the District of Columbia hearing on "Great
Lakes Restoration Management: No Direction, Unknown Progress."
US
Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs
Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management,
the Federal Workforce and the District of Columbia
Great Lakes Restoration Management: No Direction, Unknown
Progress
July 16, 2003
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Witnesses
Senator Mike DeWine (R-OH)
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI)
John Stephenson, Director of Natural Resources and Environment Issues,
General Accounting Office
Robyn Thorson, Region III Director, US Fish and Wildlife Service
Thomas Skinner, Region V Administrator, Environmental Protection Agency
William E. Ryan, III, Deputy Commander, Great Lakes Ohio River Division,
Army Corps of Engineers
Timothy Keeney, Deputy Assistant Secretary, National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration
Dennis L. Schornack, Chairman, US Section, International Joint Commission
Susan Garrett, State Senator, Illinois
Chris Jones, Director, Environmental Protection Agency, State of Ohio,
on behalf of the Council of Great Lakes Governors
Margaret Wooster, Executive Director, Great Lakes United
On July 16, 2003, the Senate Governmental Affairs Subcommittee on
Oversight of Government Management, the Federal Workforce and the
District of Columbia held a hearing to discuss and the Great Lakes
Environmental Restoration Act (S.
1398) and a General Accounting Office (GAO) report
assessing current Great Lakes restoration projects. GAO's John Stephenson
gave his testimony
on the report, which was released in April 2003. The GAO found that
the numerous restoration projects in the Great Lakes basin are too
broad and are only concerned with regional problems. The report also
said that the progress of the restoration projects is hard to assess
due to an insufficient amount of monitoring systems. The GAO recommends
that the EPA's Great Lakes National Program Office (GLNPO) fulfill
it responsibilities to coordinate an overarching strategy and to develop
an adequate monitoring system.
The Subcommittee also heard testimony from the EPA, US Fish and Wildlife
Service, Army Corps of Engineers, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration. These agencies reported on their activities in the
Great Lakes basin. Subcommittee Chair George Voinovich (R-OH) asked
the panel who directed their collective activities. Voinovich's question
was met with silence.
Senators Mike DeWine (R-OH) and Carl Levin (D-MI) gave their testimony
on S. 1398, which was introduced to address the concerns raised by
the GAO report. The Great Lakes Environmental Restoration Act is a
bi-partisan bill co-sponsored by senators from Illinois, Michigan,
Minnesota, New York, and Ohio. The bill would provide $6 billion over
ten years and establish an advisory board composed of federal, state,
local, and tribal entities to set the priorities of the restoration
projects. S. 1398 would also give GLNPO the responsibility of coordinating
the projects. The legislation is similar to restoration efforts in
the Chesapeake Bay and the Everglades. Voinovich, who is a co-sponsor
of the bill, asked the witnesses if the EPA should be the leader of
these projects. Most of witnesses agreed that the EPA was in a good
position to lead the coordinating effort. Chris Jones said that the
EPA could coordinate the projects but the Governors of the Great Lakes
states should set the priorities.
-DRL
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House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
Subcommittee on Water Resources and Environment
The Need to Update Water Quality Standards to Improve Clean
Water Act Programs
June 19, 2003
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Witnesses
John B. Stephenson, Director, National Resources and Environment,
U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO)
Linda Eichmiller, Deputy Director, Association of State and Interstate
Water Pollution Control Administrators
Kathleen M. Chavez, P.E., Director, Pima County Wastewater Management
Department
Ken Farfsing, City Manager, City of Signal Hill, Coalition for Practical
Regulation
The House Transportation and Infrastructure Subcommittee
on Water Resources and Environment held a hearing on June 19, 2003,
to receive testimony
concerning the need to update water quality standards to improve the
effectiveness of Clean Water Act (CWA) programs. Subcommittee Chairman
John Duncan (R-TN) opened the hearing by declaring that in many states,
water quality standards are inappropriate for the designated uses
of certain water bodies, resulting in mismatches between resource
allocations and water quality priorities that have lessened the effectiveness
of the CWA.
The panel's testimony indicated their general agreement on the existence
of this problem. John Stephenson reported that the General Accounting
Office (GAO) found that 30 states would have different water bodies
designated for cleanup if the process of modifying standards - either
through changing designated uses or modifying criteria - were improved.
Testimony from Ken Farfsing and Kathleen Chavez illustrated two specific
examples of the need for such changes. Farfsing complained that Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA) pressure has resulted in municipal storm sewer
systems being regulated as fishable and swimmable waters, which he
said was unrealistic and unnecessary. Chavez explained how the unique
hydrological conditions of the arid west call for amendments to the
CWA that would allow arid western states to develop regional and site-specific
water quality criteria and standards.
Much of the substantive discussion concerned the obstacles that prevent
states from modifying designated uses, criteria, and standards. Duncan
pointed out that many in the public equate changing standards with
relaxing standards, and asked Farfsing to explain why it made sense
not to clean up storm-water canals to the level of fishable and swimmable
use. Farfsing replied with a recurring theme, that prioritization
is needed to ensure that waters actually used for fishing and swimming
are given adequate resources. Representative Gene Taylor (D-MS) clashed
with Farfsing over the call to relax water quality standards for storm-water,
pointing out that allowing these waters to remain dirty would ultimately
pollute downstream waters. Farfsing contended that it was impossible
to regulate runoff from car-washing and landscaping, though Linda
Eichmiller suggested that such behavior changes by the public would
be needed for a comprehensive solution.
Barriers cited for preventing states from making needed changes include:
expenses from use-change application paperwork and water-quality
monitoring
lack of guidance and consistency from EPA
two-year delays and denials of change requests by EPA
lack of solid data on which to base defensible criteria changes
public perception that changing standards equals decreasing protections
Despite these obstacles, Eichmiller remained optimistic that the
situation was improving, noting that progress was being made in streamlining
the process. She emphasized that close collaboration between stakeholders
and EPA would greatly improve states' ability to update their standards.
-BTB
Sources: Hearing testimony.
Contributed by Brett T. Beaulieu and Deric R. Learman AGI/AIPG Summer
2003 Intern.
Please send any comments or requests for information to AGI Government Affairs Program.
Last updated on July 24, 2003
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